But that’s just common sense it’s going to end up that way.

A student who had to work while studying for the MCAT did more than a student who didn’t have to work. A student who had access to tutors and resources is going to come out ahead than one without, if the same amount of effort is put in.

someone who grew up with college educated parents is probably going to do better in school than someone who didn’t. Heck, my own kid’s college choices are greatly improving just by my being pre med because I’ve been able to spend countless hours tutoring her in her AP science classes.

You have to do more to stand out because when you start on first base, just getting to second isn’t as impressive. Being up to bat with one hand tied behind your back and getting to second is impressive.

But the argument here is that top schools are nitpicking people who barely got past first base just because they had a hand tied... You still need to get to second base no matter where you started.. To be honest in most cases the patient is going to be worried about their own health, not how many tutors their doctor had.

You think an average MCAT score of 513 is barely getting to first base? Let’s put it in context here, these are still highly educated, highly qualified applicants who will still have to undergo the education, training, and boards to get to be that doctor.

Yes, but that's not just limited to SES. That absolutely can have a role in adversity (which is an incredible quality in physicians), but I think that also discriminates against people who were fortunate to be born into wealthier families. The truth is that these are factors that the applicant could not control--they were randomly born into a family with diverse circumstances, and prioritizing one student over another for factors outside of their control is in some way unfair.

I think it needs to consider the range of activities. I think nowadays, admissions is looking too heavily for people who are underrepresented (which is great to have) but it creates a hyper-competitive pool for students who happened to come from a more fortunate background, and it seems as if they have to do a lot to make themselves stand out amongst those other students from higher-income families.

The data doesn't agree that applicants from wealthy families are being discriminated against. 75% of MD matriculants come from the top 40% of earners, and about 25% come from the top 5% of earners. There's certainly no shortage of wealthy children entering medical school because the requirements to be a competitive applicant favor the wealthy; it's a lot harder for low-income students to have the time to volunteer for free, applicants who don't come from physician families or have a lot of physicians in their general family network (which is much more common with wealthier families, given the SES block that physicians occupy) will struggle a lot more to find people to shadow, and so on. If a wealthy applicant isn't able to get into a medical school, it certainly isn't because the system discriminates against the rich.

not really, some "high stats" people have absolutely zero people skills and that cause more harm than good

and low stats people also have zero people skills

Not saying all but it is more likely that high stats have lower people skills compared to low stats bud. The high stat bookworm that all they know is studying vs the student who had to work jobs to support themselves and go to class. It comes down to parent education as well.

wow look who's presuming things here